Software Downgrade
Software Downgrade
Bluetooth = wireless file transfer
Bluetooth + Verizon + Motorola V3c RAZR (S/W .03) = crippled gear so you have to pay Verizon to get ringtones, pics, and videos
What’s the point of Bluetooth on the phone if you can’t transfer files from a computer to your phone? Exactly. There is no point. So I did some “research” on the Web and found a couple of forum threads that attempt to “explain” how to Flash my Verizon RAZR phone from a software version .03 (crappy crippled Bluetooth) to version .02 (full Bluetooth-enabled with OBEX). But if you’ve ever read technical support forums before you already know that the people writing the technical tips don’t explain things very well. Additionally, you have to read through pages and pages of useless information before you find a couple of useful tidbits.
So this post will summarize the steps you need to follow in order to downgrade your Verizon Motorola V3c RAZR phone software from .03 to .02.
Equipment and software needed:
- Verizon Motorola V3c RAZR phone with .03 software
- Mini USB cable (you’ll need to download and install the necessary USB drivers - sorry I’m not writing a tutorial on that)
- PC (sorry, this flash procedure does not work on a Mac)
- Motorola RSD Lite v. 1.9.1 (you’ll have to register)
- GATW_X_01.0F.02P (this is the flash file)
Procedure to follow:
- Install Motorola RSD Lite v. 1.9.1.
- Unzip the flash file; be sure to note its location on your PC (recommend the desktop).
- Connect your phone to the PC via the mini-USB cable.
- Start the Motorola RSD Lite v. 1.9.1 software (if it does not recognize your phone automatically, then you probably did not install the correct USB drivers.
- Browse for the flash file in the RSD software window that opens after you start it.
- Click Start.
- It takes about 15 minutes to finish; DO NOT UNPLUG the cable from the phone or turn it off.
- Power off your phone when instructed to do so. (It will tell you to manually power up the phone.)
- Power phone back on.
- Activate and reprogram your phone with *228 (Option 1).
- Pair your phone with your Bluetooth-enabled computer; it should work fully now with PCs and Macs - sorry pairing is another tutorial that I am not interested in writing.
I also found this page to be very helpful. Hope that helps and saves you time!
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Tags: Bluetooth, cell phones, computers, file transfer, flash, gatw x 01.0f.02p, geek stuff, Motorola, OBEX, RAZR, RSD Lite and Verizon
Hi, well I’ve been planning on getting a RAZR for my Verizon plan so this is very helpful. This was my only issue. Thanks and I hope it works…. but one question.
You say to download “GATW_X_01.0F.03P” flash file. We don’t download “GATW_X_01.0F.02P” which is what we will be flashing to?
/Wade
Yes Wade, you’re correct. You will want to download the GATW_X_01.0F.02P file.
Thanks Joe! I’ll let you know how it turns out.
I have a couple of concerns about this.
Will the phone be locked after I flash it?
Is there a noticeable difference between .03P & .02P?
I don’t really know what a “locked” phone is. But my phone worked fine afterwards. Also, if you don’t know what the .02 downgrade is for, then you probably should not proceed with it because you won’t have any use for it. Do some research on the links that I provided in my article before you proceed so you can determine whether or not the .02 features are what you need and want.
For myself, I want to be able to transfer files using Bluetooth from my PowerBook to the phone. I don’t want to have to pay for Get It Now because I can simply use my mp3 files and transfer to my phone as ring tones. I can make pictures and use them on my phone if I want without having to pay Verizon for the ability to customize my phone’s appearance.
By locked I mean does it require some sort of code to access the main menu after the flash? When you say “Activate & reprogram with *228″, what exactly does *228 do?
What I meant by differences with .02 & .03 was UI related. I’ve read many topics and posts at the osnn forum, but I didn’t come across any that mentioned any differences with the interface. I can assume there isn’t, but it doesn’t hurt to ask.
I appreciate your help.
By locked I meant does the phone require some sort of code to access the main menu after the flash? When you say “Activate and reprogram your phone with *228 (Option 1)”, what exactly does *228 do?
I know what this downgrade is for. I’ve read many topics and posts over at the osnn forum, but none seemed to mention any changes with the UI when downgraded. I can assume the interface is the same as version .03, but it doesn’t hurt to ask.
I appreciate your help.
*228 is Verizon’s phone number for Over the Air Programming.
transfers and custom ringtones that badly. So, I took the risk, and flashed my Verizon-crippled RAZR with the older .02 version firmware. It worked like a charm. I now have all the features a Motorola RAZR phone is supposed to have. I highly recommendthis guide if you want to do this yourself. And yes, it only works with Windows (or an Intel iMac with Windows installed via Boot Camp, in my case hehe).
When I try to run RSDLite1.9.1 it says i need some hotfixes or an OS update and gives me a link. The link is dead though… any other software i could use? Feel free to email me.
That’s the easiest one to use that I know of. I used it on Windows XP.
[…] Never mind. I found the answer: Upgrade to 4.04 Once MPT is open press F6, click on the Communication Tab at the top. Click the Change Modem button Next button to begin wizard. Select Motorola USB Modem and click Next Check the "Do Not Automatically Detect" checkbox Select Motorola CDMA Find v3cm in the list and finish up the wizard. Mulimedia Studio is now enabled, and I can transfer my pictures, mp3s etc back and forth with USB cable (or Bluetooth, I imagine). Thanks to: http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=801158 for how to upgrade to 4.04 http://whatsbruin.net/2006/03/25/software-downgrade/ for simple intructions and links to downgrade […]
Hey Joe:
I was successful in the downgrade. I now want to transfer mp3 ringtones to the phone is that possible? It screwed up my address books. Also, I don’t have a bluetooth pc. Second is it possible to reverse the process, ie return to the original software?
You can return to the original software by downloading the .03 version and then flashing it to your phone.
As far as transferring ringtones, I just transfer them via Bluetooth, but this can’t be done with the .03 software.
I just wanted to say Thank You. The article helped me so much, and I was able to flash my phone to the .02 version on the first try.
Hi.. Thanks for the tutorial… Umm.. so let me get this straight… after I do flash.. I will have everything working on my verizon crippled razr.. But I will have to call *228 to get my phone reprogrammed? When You do that do you have to talk to someone or is it done over an automated system, because I want to do this, But i don’t want to have to explain what I did to my phone that makes me have to get it reactivated
If you’ve been a Verizon customer, you should know what *228 is. Try it before you do the downgrade (see previous comments about *228).
*228 is something you’re supposed to be doing on your phone on a regular basis. I try to do it at least once every two or three months if not more.
[…] 45Mike on Apr 21, 2006 at 8:49 pm (Quote): And of course I have .03 […]
by using *228, you are just reprogramming the phone, right? You do not have to actually “re-activate” the phone, do you? If so, does that cause any problems with your service or anything like that? Any other issues by going from .03 to .02?
Thanks!
I tried your procedure to downgrade my Verizon V3c from 03 to 02. The flash failed - unable to retrieve interface handle (0×28). Any suggestions?
Derwin,
Try upgrading your zip software, then re-unzipping the flash file. Then retry the procedure with the new flash file.
Thanks Joe. I had done this from my laptop running W2K. This morning I tried it from my desktop running XP Pro and was successfull. Thanks again. BTW I created a set of screen shots of RSDLite doing the firmware change, if you’re interested.
Derwin
You rule!
Easy directions… I was so pissed that Verizon had disabled all BT functionality!
Now i can use the phone I paid for!
Question , If I now get the phone upgraded to .04 will I keep my OBEX?
I have not heard about .04. Can you post a link of info about it?
Yea, I read about it here.
Here is the follow up explaining the author’s mistake:
So i went to the Verizon store and had them flash my phone to .04. well it turns out that the website was wrong and they have not enabled OBEX in .04. But I did read somewhere that if you flash your phone to .02 and then take it to .04 it keeps the OBEX open.
All i know is I’m not touching my .02 now that it’s working.
Mote
I am ready to try your procedure. However, I would like to backup my current .03 firmware so I can reinstall if I run into any problems. Do you know how to do this? If so, thank you for your help.
Joe — great job on the discriptive step-by-step. Just wanted to let all of you know that if you upgrade from .02 to .04 at Verizon, you do get to keep your OBEX. .04 is good because .02 has some issues with battery life and the phone has problems refreshing RAM as well. Those were corrections made for .03 (that .04 also has). But the best part of .04 is that it has a major bug fix where you can now close your phone and it’ll actually end calls as opposed to having them run endlessly until you actually hit the end button.
Bryan, you can also download the .03 file from the link in the tutorial. so you can flash back to .03 if you want to do that.
I just got home from a Verizon Store for the software upgrade to .04. OBEX still works (tested it on my Mac with bluetooth). So as long as you upgrade to .04 from .02, OBEX transfer will still work.
Wow man, just wow. I finally got this puppy to work thank you very very much! I can finally have my macross tunes as my ring tone haha!
Why does the RSD program does not recognize my phone? Do I have to buy the V3c software that the computer asks me for when I connect my phone to my computer in order to the RSD program to recognize it?
Nothin appears in the device properties section of the RSD program.
Please help me
Thanks
Hey Joe - Complete noob here. I’m having trouble with step one of your instructions. First of all, the link you provide for downling Motorola RSD Lite v 1.9.1 is no good… I registered for the site, but I can’t find the file anywhere. Anyway, I believe I was able to find the file by googling it, and I saved it to my desktop. the file is a “RAR” file? What is this? I have XP. My computer has no idea how to open the file when I double click it. It actually tries to open it in Windows Media Player. How do I install RSD Lite v 1.9.1? It’s not a zip file, it’s simply one file with “RAR” type. HELP!
Javier, You need to follow the instructions completely. If RSD does not recognize your phone, you probably don’t have the correct USB drivers installed.
My tutorial is not about installing drivers. You’ll have to do that on your own.
Eric– Try downloading and installing winzip from winzip.com. It should open RAR files also.
Thanks Joe… I ended up figuring it out on my own last night. I downloaded WinRAR and unzipped the RSD Lite files. I was able to flash my phone to version .02 successfully. The true test will come tonight when I attempt to transfer my phone book from my V3c to my Lexus via bluetooth!
When you flash back to .02 do you lose your contact information? If so, how would you recommend that I back up my contact data?
Thanks,
Bryan
I didn’t lose any of my contacts when I downgraded versions. the only thing was that it didn’t remember a couple of my preference settings that I had set before. But those were easily restored.
Hey Joe- One more question. What would happen if I dialed *228 Option 2? I did not do this, but I’m just curious. What does it do? Should I never do that?
Hey Joe- one more question… what would happen if I dialed *228 Option 2? I have not done this, but I’m just curious… what does it do?
Joe, sorry to keep bombarding you with Q’s but I’m a curious cat. So now that I’ve flashed my Verizon RAZR V3c to version .02, this will enable OBEX, right? But does it also enable OPP (Object Push Profile) and SPP (Serial Port Profile)?
Hey Joe,
I installed the USB drivers for the v3c that came with the mobile office kit and the usb phonebook transfer works fine, which leads me to believe that the usb drivers are installed correctly. When I installed the RSD Lite v1.9.1 software and windows begins to recognize a few devices:
1. Motorola Communication Interface
the others only showed up the first time.
When i told it to install the drivers automatically, it said it could not find them and that the device may not be working properly because it couldn’t find the necessary software. Any idea how I can correct that so I can begin using RDS Lite?
Thanks so much for bringing all this out.
Mark
Mark, I don’t think those are the correct drivers for this procedure. I don’t remember installing drivers that went along with the Mobile Office Kit.
In fact, I installed a set of drivers that I found from one of the links in my tutorial.
Eric, I think Option 2 is for updating the roaming cabilities of the phone.
I do that one regularly too, although not as often as option 1, which I seem to remember more.
Give it a try.
So even though the computer recognizes my phone because it pops up a window telling me that i need to install a v3c software the USB is not correctly installed because the rsd program does not recognize it?
are at least three versions of software for the RAZR - 02, 03, and the current 04. 02 had the Bluetooth in its uncrippled state. O3 does not. Depending on which version you upgraded from, 04 will either have it on or off. I found a tutorial on how todowngrade the phone to the 02
Sorry Javier. I don’t know what to tell you. Did you try what I suggested?
I’m not that keen on tech support. The procedures I’ve detailed above worked flawlessly for me. I’ve done it four times already (we have three phones on our account plus on one replacement phone).
do you really need to call the *228? i read the posts above and you said that you do it every other months.. so what dose that do for your phone?
thanks for your help
well I guess I will have to give up!
thank you any way
(or did you had a Motorola software installed in your computer when you did the downgrade?)
Javier, It doesn’t sound like you followed the directions explicitly. Why don’t you replace the USB drivers with the one linked above in the instructions and go from there.
The instructions I wrote do NOT cover using the drivers included with the Mobile Office.
and have phone numbers in Addressbook sync with my phone using iSync (I even made a group in Addressbook called “RAZR” so only people in that group get synced). And I did it with the phone in another room of my apartment!!! If you’re sneaky, you candowngrade your phone’s software and then take it to Verizon for an upgrade to have the latest version with file transfers enabled (there was an upgrade in between that didn’t change anything except disable file transfers to force people to use their paid
yep it was the USB driver, now would it be too much inconvinience to ask you how to tranfer files from phone to phone, or from my computer to my phone?
Do I need the MPT to do that??
By the way it told me to power up my phone and did not do nothing after that(the RSD program), was that normal? I just activated and reprogramed my phone and is working just fine I am just going to take it to get the .04, I diconnected my phone after powering it up do you thing something will happen to my phone later?
if in S/W Version says:GATW_01.0F.02
means that I succesfully did it right????
thanks
Help,
I did the downgrade - from 01.15.04 - and I have a big problem - there is like a 20 seconds delay from when I press talk to when the phone actually dials! Any suggestions? Thanks in advance
Re: Razr V3C (Verizon) GATW_01.0F.03 and all the good stuff locked out.
Thank You, Thank You, Thank You !!!!!!!
This is the only way I got anything to work (flash back to V .02) using rsd lite 2.5 (from http://www.cyguru.com/RSD_Lite.zip ) and
GATW_X_01.0F.02P_PRIhh14145_SuperUpgrade_02_BOOT6500_X_R21.1_V1.8.1P.shx (can’t remember where I found it).
Now I Keep the Phone!
tnx cl
[…] I also recently purchased the crippled bluetooth version of verizon’s razr v3c. But if you have a pc with windows xp or 2k you can hack into your phone and downgrade from S/W version GATW_01.0F.03 which has the crippled bluetooth to version GATW_01.0F.02 which has the full bluetooth capabilities, heres a link on how to do it http://whatsbruin.net/2006/03/25/software-downgrade/ if you do it correctly it should work like a charm and allow you to directly transfer files via bluetooth, hope thats helpful. ibook G4 Mac OS X (10.4.6) […]
Thanks so much mr JoeBruin. I just bought my mom a new verizon pink razr for mother’s day and thought I would put some of her favorite songs on for ringtones, but was angered to find out I couldn’t. Now I’ve downgraded to .02 and will take it into a Verizon store and get it upgraded to .04. I’m a bruin too, just not a UCLA one. You know the other one, the one you beat in the first round of the NCAA basketball tournament.
[…] The only way I got anything to work was to flash back to V .02 using rsd lite 2.5 (from http://www.cyguru.com/RSD_Lite.zip ) and GATW_X_01.0F.02P_PRIhh14145_SuperUpgrade_02_BOOT6500_X_R21.1_V1.8.1P.shx (can’t remember where I found it). Easy directions from http://whatsbruin.net/2006/03/25/software-downgrade/ (even a dummy (me) could make it work. […]
Holy Cow! I was so mad at Verizon this morning that I sent them a message telling them how upset I was, and now thanks to this site I have a V3c with the latest firmware that also works with Bluetooth and I didn’t even have to go to the Verizon store. This totally rocks! Joe Bruin…YOU ROCK!
OBJECTIVE:
To Enable USB and OBEX support on CDMA Razr V3c phones that have been disabled by Verizon service provider. Enabling support allows users to upload and download their Phone Contacts, Calendar, and Messages to their computers for backups and other reasons.
EQUIPMENT:
• Fully charged Verizon RAZR V3C Phone with GATW_01.15.04 (or x.03) software version
• USB A to USB mini B (5 pin) interface cable
• Motorola PhoneTools v4.0x
• DriverTool.zip
• Motorola Product Support Tool (PST) 7.2.3 & Patch
• Motorola Product Support Tool USB Driver
• P2KSeem
PROCEDURE:
1. Create a sub directory on your Windows XP computer and name it RazrHack on your C drive or other.
2. Download Motorola PhoneTools v4.0x into RazrHack sub directory.
3. Extract MPT.zip to sub directory called MPT within RazrHack.
4. Go to http://www.bvrp.com/customers/motorola/upgrade/US/ and click on the hyperlink title “Click here if you use a CDMA phone.” Or go to http://www/bvrp.com/Customers/Motorola/DriverTool.zip to download the Driver Tool.
5. Save DriverTool.zip to RazrHack
6. Extract DriverTool.zip to sub directory called DriverTool within RazrHack.
7. Download Motorola Product Support Tool (PST) 7.2.3 & Patch into sub directory RazrHack
8. Extract MPST.zip to sub directory called MPST within RazrHack.
9. Download Motorola Product Support Tool USB Driver from www.v710.org/mark/Files/E815-V710-DriverPack1.zip and into sub directory RazrHack.
10. Extract E815-V710-DriverPack1.zip to sub directory called PST-USB within RazrHack.
11. Download P2KSeem from www.v710.org/mark/Files/P2KSeem4V710.zip to RazrHack.
12. Extract P2KSeem4V710.zip into sub directory called P2KSeeem4V710 within RazrHack.
13. Install Motorola PhoneTools v4.0x and run update for application updates the Internet.
14. Go to C:\RazrHacks\DriverTool and click on DriverTool.exe to install.
15. Install Motorola Product Support Tool (PST) 7.2.3 & Patch.
16. Go into PST-USB and read readme.txt file.
17. Determine where PST-USB files are to be copied to for C:\i386 ( or C:\WINDOWS\i386) and Motorola Product Support Tool.
18. Connect powered down Verizon RAZR V3c phone to Windows XP computer using the USB interface cable.
19. Run Motorola Product Support Tool (PST). NOTE: Windows Add New Hardware Wizard should run, automatically search for, find and install the new driver. If not, point the wizard to the PST-USB sub directory. The phone will now be listed as “Motorola USB Modem” in Device Manager under Modems.
20. If your phone shows up in Device Manager as Motorola USB Modem, launch PST using the Phone Programmer icon off the start menu. Again, if this is your first time doing this, or you have connected the data cable to a different USB port, the Add New Hardware wizard will run. It will try to install “Communications Class - Control Interface”, “Data Logging MCU Interface”, “Test Command Interface,” and “Accessories Interface.” For all of these, choose “Install from a list or specific location…” then click next. On the following screen, to the right to the “include this location in the search” click browse… and direct C:\RazrHack\PST-USB for the V3C PST_USB driver. If the add new hardware wizard does NOT run, check device manager for a Motorola USB Device group with Accessories Interface, Data Logging MCU, and Test Command Interface listed. If you have them, you can proceed. If you do not, unplug your phone, power it off/on, and reconnect. These devices must be installed for P2KSeem to connect to the phone! They will only be listed in Device Manager while PST is still running so DO NOT EXIT PST!
21. PST really gives NO indication that it is connected to your phone. To verify connectivity, launch PST.
22. When the main interface appears, click File,New, Phone Book File then OK. You will be presented with Untitled Phone Book File. Use the Phone pull down, and click READ. PST should start reading the contents of your phone’s Contacts. If it finishes, PST is connected. NOTE: Be careful when doing this in PST, choosing an improper option (even for reading) can fry your phone!!
23. While PST 7.2.3 is running on your computer, run P2kSeem.exe from C:\RazrHack\P2KSeem4v710.
24. P2KSeem should say “connected” in the lower left corner of the application box.
25. Locate the LOAD area in the bottom right corner area. Change the Seem to 2742 and Record to 1.
26. Verify the 2 fields have the correct entries then Click “LOAD FROM PHONE” button.
27. From within the application, you will see many hex codes arranged in columns and rows. Under Selected Byte Details (lower left section) you will see OFFSET:0000 (location of cursor at load time).
28. To backup the original seem, click “save to file” and go to C:\RazrHack
29. Name backup file to 2742_0001.bak and click OK to save.
30. Go down to row 000060 and column over to e3 (may be e2 on some phones) should say offset 006a.
31. Click on box for BIT 0 to put a check mark in it. This sets BIT 0 = 1 (enables USB File transfer for music/video/pictures in the Motorola phone tools software). NOTE: DO NOTE EXPERIMENT WITH OTHER BITS!
32. Click “Save to Phone.”
33. Click “Restart Phone.”
34. Close P2kSeem & PST
35. Unplug the USB cable from your phone, and then plug it back in (resets connection with the pc after programming).
36. Run Motorola Phone tools.
37. Press or go to menu/setup/general setup.
38. Click on communication tab and choose change modem.
39. Click on Next 2 times.
40. Click the box beside “Do not automatically detect…” & click next.
41. Click on Motorola CDMA, choose V3CM and Click next.
42. Click Finish and OK.
Now your Motorola PhoneTools software should connect with your phone, and show you the Multimedia Studio, Contact, and Calendar options. If not, reboot your pc and reopen phone tools to connect again.
What if I already have .04? I just bought this thing yesterday and it’s already updated. Am I screwed?
Zach, You can try downgrading to .02 then bring the phone back to the store for the .04 upgrade. Do some reading about that first on other sites.
hey all
i webt through the process, flashed the phone with the files given here, checked the s/w version on the phone and it is now .02…however with my io bluetooth adapter, it still says it only supports the headset feature and not the file transfer
do i maybe need new bluetooth software? this is frustrating especially after seeing this worked for everybody else lol
actually i just figured it out…
this is how i got it to work…
while my phone and pc were connected for the hands free gateway, it wouldnt allow obex….
however, when i dropped the pc on my razr, magically the obex file transfer option showed up and i could transfer…
so although it wasn’t technically connected, it could transfer
weird
other thing that you could do is to buy the Motorola phone tool 4.0 because it did not work with just the Bluetooth by itself for me either but with the MPT 4.0 i can transfer whatever I want.
I just did this with my new .04 razr v3c and it works like a charm. My Powerbook’s bluetooth works perfectly with file transfers!
Thank you so much.
This downgrade has made me love this phone.
Can someone please help me find a RSD Lite that works. I have tried to get the 1.9.1 version and it required a password to extract and I also went to the site listed in the directions and it didnt have the file for download anymore. Your Help would be greatly appreciated.
so will the downgrade void the warranty like the other “hacks” out there to enable OBEX???
Will this work using a PC running Windows 98?
Hi Guys,
I’ve been reading all about downgrading to s/w version .02, but I went to the Verizon store the other day and inquired about a s/w upgrade and the guy had no idea what I was talking about.
I’m a Verizon customer and got this phone for free with the new every two plan. I’m terrified about downgrading my phone to the .02 s/w version because I’m afraid I’ll seriously screw up my phone.
If I do downgrade to the .02 version can I still flash it to the .04 version? Also, I purchased Motorola Phone Tools 4.0 and I couldn’t get anything to transfer (eventhough I could see my phone).
This is so frustrating!!!
Hello Again!
I feel like such an idiot! I can’t tell you how many hours I’ve spent online just researching how to get my VZW RAZR V3c to transfer pics.
This site has been a HUGE LIFESAVER — THANK YOU!!!!
I can now transfer pics, mp3’s, etc. after downgrading from 01.15.04 to .02. Now that it’s working I’m afraid to upgrade to .04! I’m a PC Tech and follow this rule…”If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it!”
THANKS AGAIN! and you can bet I’ll be checking these forums 1st for ANYTHING I need!
Joe, you kick ass. I have the downgrade thanks to you. Keep it up!
Hey, I just bought a RAZR v3c that has the new .04 software on it. Can I flash it down to the .02 with this same process?
MCPhiDelt740 - I had the .04 s/w version and downgraded to the .02 version last night without a problem.
Thanks Beth, I guess I will be buying a USB cable for it today. I have another question for the brain trust out there; is there any possible way to enable OPP on the v3c or is that a dream that will never be realized?
i have the flash and the rsd lite downloaded. all i can’t seem to get in the usb driver. when i go into rsd lite my phone doesn’t show up..will someone PLEASE help me
Ok, I would like to second Rob’s cry for help. I am in the same boat, the Flash, RSD Lite 2.0.3, and I got some drivers from another forum but nothing I do makes the RAZR show up in the RSD software.
Rob and MCPhi– I strongly advise searching for the drivers I mentioned in the tutorial using the provided link. Someone else was stubborn and wanted to use the lame drivers included with that Motorola Mobile Office Kit and they would not work as well. Once he used the recommended drivers, the procedure worked properly. Unfortunately, I don’t have the drivers available for download.
i can’t seem to find Motorola RSD LITE 1.9.1. The website you have linked doesn’t have it anymore or I just didn’t look well. Any idea where I can find this program? Thanks.
For anyone who’s having trouble getting drivers for their RAZR V3C, go to Joe’s tutorial and surf over the osnn.net site. Download the drivers for your phone from here. I had to use RSD Lite 2.5 because I couldn’t find the 1.9.1 version.
JOE…I’ll have to double-check but I believe you said in a previous post that you were able to upgrade to s/w 4.0 and still have transfer/bluetooth functionality. Is this correct? I’m thinking of giving it a shot after successfully downgrading to s/w/2.0.
Ok, finally got the process to work, more luck than skill, but hey…i’ll take it. Thanks for all of your help everyone, especially Bruin, if I hadn’t found this tutorial, I would have been lost. Ok, now that my Oscar winning speech is over, I have one last question. Has anyone taken the phone back to a Verizon location to be upgraded to .04 from .02 and verified that the OBEX still works afterwards. If someone could give me a yes or no on that, I would really appreciate it. Thanks again guys and gals!
Quick question. Is this known to void the warranty of the cell phone?
Big thanks to Joe for the straight forward instructions on changing the firmware on Motorola RAZRs!
It was a long process to get all the necessary drivers and software, but well worth it.
I changed .02 to .04 and the OBEX still works on 2 phones. I noticed the phone performs alot better with .04 version. The voice dialing works much better, no more “did you say?” Also, the phone connection/data transfer icon doesn’t stay on all the time.
Also, the software is meant to be changed around from carrier to carrier, by the service provider. Now if you try a warranty claim because you were “flashing” your phone on your own and screwed up…you might get denied service. Just say the phone died and leave it at that, if you have a warranty.
to go over to the PC to download the correct programs and drivers but I got it to work perfectly and now I have mp3 quality sound clips as ringtones. I know, it’s amazing! If you would like to figure out how to do this with your Razr just visithttp://whatsbruin.net/2006/03/25/software-downgrade/ for the instructions. Technorati Tags: Filed under: Blog | 0 Comments
Hi All!
I successfully downgraded from .04 to .02 using Joe’s tips last month. However, I noticed that I can’t use VZ Navigator anymore.
Can I flash the phone using Joe’s tips back to .04? I went into a VZ Store and they had no idea what I was talking about regarding a s/w flash upgrade.
I will try a different VZ Store tomorrow. What do I tell them so they will flash my phone? Should I try the “Master Reset” option on my phone to upgrade the s/w?
Thanks for your help!
I’ve successfully upgraded .03 to .04 instead of downgrading .03 to .02! At the end, after I power up the phone, I activated and I was almost scared that I might brick my phone. The first attempt was unsuccessfull, so I power off and on again for the the second attempt. Then it failed again and last, I heard something on the phone that was suppose to be the operator command, so I listen to follow instruction and press option 1 and my phone has successfully activated! Thanks for the suggestion!
Beth,
I upgraded my phone to .04.
Just tell them you want the software upgrade to .04. Don’t tell them about downgrading; they will look at you strangely because not all the technicians will know what you are talking about. It’s not necessary to give them too much information.
Going from .02 to .04 worked perfectly as mentioned in previous comments.
Kirk,
You’re missing out on the all the file transfer capabilities. You should have downgraded from .03 to .02, then upgraded from .02 to .04
hey there joe, Its just one thing after another with verizon. Im planning on attempting the downgrade from version 3 to 2. I just get bad anxiety about the thought of screwing up my phone till its unfunctional through this process. also before i start do you know if any of the software has changed to prevent your method from working.
[…] Mini USB cable and my Moto Razr V3c I’m going through a dilemma with my Razr from Verizon in which I can’t file transfer via bluetooth with my phone (pics through OBEX). I did I little research and found out I need to downgrade, then upgrade the firmware to the newest version (Im stuck with the middle one). http://whatsbruin.net/2006/03/25/software-downgrade/ Anyway, I need a mini USB cable to do that and I don’t know which socket to get… I have one for my digital camera and it doesn’t fit. Can anyone tell me which mini usb I need? Also, would you advise against changing firmware or is it recoverable if something goes wrong? __________________ Acer Travelmate 8204WLMi 120gb Hd 2.0Ghz Core Duo 2gb PC5300 RAM 1680×1050 WSXGA+ ATI X1600 Pi to 2M: 1min11sec 3dmark05: 4514 3dmark06: 2002 […]
i have the razr v3m. will this downgrade work on that?
Not sure about the v3m. I have a v3c and these steps are written for that model. You’ll have to do some research and determine if it will work.
Does file transfer work via a mini USB cable or does it need the firmware upgrade for that also?
I am hesitant to continue with the upgrade because I don’t want my phone wrecked.
For example, if the upgrade fails when I try, can I go to the Verizon store and have him overwrite the corrupted firmware with .04 or would it be permanently damaged?
QUESTION - DOES ANYONE HAVE THE GATW_01.15.04 VERSION OF SOFTWARE FOR THE VERIZON RAZR PHONE OR DO I HAVE TO GO TO THE STORE TO GET IT? PLEASE HELP, I WOULD RATHER DO IT MY SLEF THAN HAND MY PHONE OVER TO THE VERIZON TECH IN MY AREA. !!!!
TJ
Yo joe, Do you know if my v3c has to be in bootloader mode before i start the flash. And in the Device properties of RSD Lite I have n/a for the bootloader version and DRN version. what needs to be done about that? thanks man in advance.
YOU ARE A GODSEND
Dam it - Verizon has me all messed up. I have successfully downgraded my phone but still do not have the OBEX service on my phone and I went and followed the instructions to enable above and I seem to be getting a view of the files but it is hit or miss and every time I attempt to transfer the files I get a message that the phone breaks the connection. Then I am back to square one. Dam you Verizon.
Tj
Help…..I have a pink Verizon v3c. I have dl’d the Razr V3C Usb Driver. I am using RSD lite 2.5. Flashed the phone with GATW_X_01.0F.02P_PRIhh14145_SuperUpgrade_02_BOOT6500_X_R21.1_V1.8.1P.shx. Before I did that, I tried a hack “How to change the Verizon front logo”
BitPim 0.8.07
Motorola v3c USB Drivers (http://forum.osnn.net/showthread.php?t=80317)
Install the Motorola v3c USB Drivers
Install BitPim 0.8.07
You will need to view the filesystem under View/filesystem. BitPim 0.8.07 doesn’t nativity support V3c
Browse to mobile
Override verizon.gif with another file with the same name. Do not delete the file!
The file is 96 x 80
Tried that and completely wiped my image file, even though i did exactly as instructed. The image i replaced was a 96 x 72 file.
Then I tried to flash down to 02 version. Have flashed 3 times now and my phone is totally wacked, although the flash on rsdlite says it was successful and passed. After powering back up, i get the searching for network symbol and then that’s it. I then get the screen that says my number is xxxxxxxxxx. That’s it. I can’t do anything else with it.
What the heck do I do now? Any ideas?
Update on previous posting. I found the original verizon.gif pic at 96X80 and went back in to BitPim 0.8.07 and exchanged the pic I had put in for the original. Exited the program and would you believe the phone is working perfectly now? Got the version 2 installed correctly on the phone and am dl’ing MPT4 now. Thank you for all of your great posts. This is a blast!
yeah file prolly has to be exactly the same size always remember verizon is retarded
hi my name is brent i am haveing a hard time finding the motorola rsd lite v1.9.1 when i go to the link provided and register it does not come up could you send me a link via email for the best way to download the rsd lite
Hi Brent,
I don’t really like posting links to things that are easily found on Google. I really am trying to be helpful, but people should also be willing to put in some effort in finding these things.
For example, just do a search on RSD Lite and explore the results. You’ll find one of them to be a link to RSD Lite version 2.6, which should work just as well with my intructions. In fact, I’m confident that my instructions will work with all versions 1.91 or higher. I said confident, not absolutely positivie. But I have read comments from other people on this post that have indicated that higher versions of RSD Lite have worked for them.
Be sure to do your part and read through the useful comments that have been posted here. There are quite a few comments, but you can skip those that won’t be useful to you.
Good luck.
Has anyone here tried using the Bonus CD found at www.cellcables.com to modify the locked features of the V3c or v3m? Just wondering if it works and is worth purchasing.
Thanks
[…] Originally Posted by jord043 I have the V3c version of the the verizon wireless.. I can’t seem to fine the right rsd file to flash mine..which one will i need to use? the file I downloaded only shows the GSM and not the GSA (Verizon Wireless) What are you trying to do, flash to altell or flash to the .02 firmware? Here is a link to the .02 verizon firmware and flashing instructions… http://whatsbruin.net/2006/03/25/software-downgrade/ Here is a wiki guide on flashing the v3c to Alltel firmware, this allows file transfers and also changes the phone back to the default Motorola user interface instead of the (slow and crippled) verizon interface. http://wiki.howardforums.com/index.p…er_Int erface __________________ […]
Flashed to 02 software, took it to Verizon to get it back to 04, and OBEX no longer works! I guess I’ll downgrade again and upgrade it myself?
I did the downgrade but the bluetooth isn’t working. The computer will recognize the phone but not be able to make the connection. I have the v3m, is that why? Someone help me PLEASE!!!
Please note that these procedures were written solely for the Motorola v3c RAZR only.
Thanks Joe for all of the tips!
I was able to downgrade to .02, but now RSD won’t recognize the phone when connected. The bluetooth works fine as does the phone. Has anyone else had this problem? I’d like to upgrade to .04 so i need to find a way to get RSD to recognize the phone again. Any ideas?
nevermind . . . I figured it out, I had to remove and re-install the usb drivers. Thanks again for all of the info!
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Thanks Joe! I recently upgraded my Verizon Razr Vc3 at their store from v.03 to v.04 and was sorely disappointed to find that no transfers of any type were possible. With your easy to grasp procedure and files found at ryfiles and rapidshare reprogging was fast, simple, and painless. I don’t know what “techies” was trying to communicate on May 21…his style is a little convoluted… but the downgrade works with MPT natively either by USB or Bluetooth. RSD Lite was a bit scary at the point of steps 8 & 9 ( prog said it was still in process after powering on, off and back on again )and when I went to close the program it reported that doing so while it was still in process could damage the phone, but it seems that by the time it prompts for power up it is safely finished.
Once again thanks..way cool, or as the young’uns
might say whey kewl. See ya at the Rose Bowl….
M Go Blue!
The upgrade flash to v.04 is also available at ryfiles.com/flash for home use. Have not tried it yet…but it should work with rsd lite the same way as the downgrade to v.02.
This is all very informative and very helpful. But this all talks about Razr V3C from Verizon. I have a v3c from US Cellular. Is everything gong to work out the same or will the things described here not play well with my Razr? I am running v.04 according to my phone. Thank you. Greg
Hey techies, it actually works. thats just a change of 1 bit. i am amazed, how verizon people rip us off. FU** THEM. everything is working on my phone. I just wanted to point out one thing in your description.
IF the value of byte at memory offset 0×006a is 0xe3 then it means in bits it is 11100011, which means the bit0 is already set to 1 and in that case your phone already has OBEX enabled. other wise if it is 0xe2 then bit looks like 11100010 and then bit0 is disabled. you just have to enable the bit0. COOL … LOV YOU>>>>>>>>
BEWARE OF CURRENT SOFTWARE UPGRADE AT VERIZON STORES ! Just as an experiment I downgraded to V.02and then went to the V store for an upgrade. Was talking to the tech ( as a splash screen in the background was saying not to discuss proprietary subjects in public ) and asked what version of RSD they were using. He replied that they had just installed V4.xsomething. When I got home I tried both MPT and BitPIM and neither would trnsfer files anymore… so back down to v.02 and back up to v.04 at home and voila.. it worked again. Saw a screen on V’s firmware upgrade at the store that leads me to believe that it no longer just overlays the upgrade but completely erases the firmware before the installation of v.04. Consequently I recommend just doing it yourself with the files that are availaable at the sources listed above. Once again thanks JB. You mentioned that your upgrade was successful at the V store.. however I don’t think that is any longer the case.
Has anybody ever found out the password for RSD 1.9.1? I see Tim was having a problem and it looks like he never got an answer. Can anyone help me?
I Know theres a big controvercy over this but i want to be able to swap ringtone with my buddies if i do downgrade my phone to v.02 will i be able to do this
I followed the instructions, and I get an error: “Failed flashing process. Unable to retrieve interface handle. (0×4107027)
Any idea what I can do to fix that?
Hello i wanted to say thanks for the best walkthrough i found for downgrading to .02- like many others i spent 4+ hours trying to figure out what i needed to do to donload my own tones on to this darn phone. the downgrade went thru without a prob. only thing is i also got motorola phone tool and i upgraded to the most current version. i am currently stuck at the initializing-please wait screen on the MPT program. do i need to upgrade my phone now to .04 to make this thing sync up? i am currently trying to use the usb cable, but wonder if i went out and bought a bluetooth dongle if i would have the same problem with it as i am having connecting fully with the usb cable? any help is much appreciated.